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Pantera Retro Scooter

I'm seriously considering this. Kristin's afraid I will die on it.  I just need something to get myself to and from the transit station (and occassionally to Dairy Queen).  Good idea/bad idea?  Please weigh in.


28 responses

  1. danielle

    lol AWESOME idea!!

    May 9, 2006 at 10:17 am

  2. How much? Scooter and insurance…

    May 9, 2006 at 12:33 pm

  3. Kristin

    Please people…as you encourage, pray for him on these crazy Dallas roads!

    May 9, 2006 at 1:29 pm

  4. The scooter is $595 – but I plan on talking him down to $450 or $500. Don’t know how much insurance is, but I can’t imagine it would be too expensive.

    May 9, 2006 at 6:51 pm

  5. I have seen folks “scoot” around A-town and wonder about their safety… in Dallas I am almost certain that they would need to create a traffic statistic for Scooter involved accidents…

    it is a less expensive means to an end… at what other expense though?

    (I am trying to earn brownie points with the Mrs.!)

    May 9, 2006 at 7:31 pm

  6. I’d basically be riding around suburbia. I’m not taking it on the freeway or anything. sheesh.

    May 9, 2006 at 9:51 pm

  7. Matt,
    I JUST bought one. Not this exact one mine was a vespa knockoff. I sold my busted down car for 950 and the scooter cost 900. Basically I wanted to scoot around chattanooga and get 80 miles to the gallon. How fast does yours go? Mine tops out at 30mph but you can get it boosted up. Make sure to have a helmet. My mother offers the advice that you could decorate it with a flag so all the kids would know it is yours. If you want to check out mine go to the blog. Hope you and the fam are well!

    May 10, 2006 at 10:31 am

  8. Kristin

    Thanks Dutch!!

    May 10, 2006 at 3:36 pm

  9. rich

    before you decide, you should read this, i think:

    also, according to,

    “Most motorcycle accidents involve a short trip associated with shopping, errands, friends, entertainment or recreation, and the accident is likely to happen in a very short time close to the trip origin.”

    how does riding around suburbia and the occasional trip to dairy queen fit with that statistic?

    May 10, 2006 at 8:55 pm

  10. Yes!! Brownie points!

    May 11, 2006 at 2:21 pm

  11. Well – as much as I think you are all a bunch of pansies with no sense of thrill or adventure – it looks like I’ll be skipping the scooter. I’ve decided to look for a cheapey little truck instead (like a toyota or something). I don’t want to spend much more than $1k – so if anyone knows of something for sale, let me know.

    The major downside to the scooter would be that I’d be the only one who could (or rather –would) drive it. So it only helps with getting to work and nothing else. It would also SUCK to get cught in the rain on my way to the bus.

    May 11, 2006 at 4:07 pm

  12. rich

    i get all the thrills i need when chip walks into the store

    May 12, 2006 at 3:41 pm

  13. I know you already decided, but I can’t resist commenting. I have to say that there is a HUGE difference between a motorcycle and a scooter. And there is no wonder that there are a lot of motorcycle accidents. comparing a motorcycle to a scooter is like comparing a runner to my grandmother on her walker. I think that scooters could do a lot of good for actually pushing down gas prices, if people chose to use them. I also imagine that moving out of harms way on a side street while on a scooter, is much safer than a motorcycle that is in a cars blindspot on the freeway.

    I vote for the scooter, and think you should reconsider. The gas you save as you top out at 25 to 30 mph, is worth it.

    Paid of cheaply, cheaper to maintain, no guzzling gas…… One person going to work, and a one person vehicle makes SENSE.

    May 18, 2006 at 10:22 am

  14. Kristin

    Ooo, Sember, don’t encourage him :). What would say about a truck that is very old costing the same amount of $$ but that I could learn to drive a manual shift on? Huh, huh?

    May 18, 2006 at 1:27 pm

  15. Hmmm….. Learning to drive a manual… It’s an improtant thing in life. But honestly, Kristin, you would look so hot on a scooter.

    May 19, 2006 at 9:11 am

  16. Kristin

    HAHA…I honestly don’t think I would go on one of these things…especially in Dallas. Just ask Matt, any trips we’ve taken in the past I’ve found reasons to NOT ride the scooter. I blame it on my childhood and mantra from then “you could get hurt doing …” or “that’s a good way to get killed” (the last is a fav of Matt’s) But thanks, looking hot or learning to drive a manual….:).

    Matt, if you got one I’d really like you to wear an orange reflective vest :). And the helmet is a given.

    May 19, 2006 at 8:39 pm

  17. Grampa Wolfie

    If I understand correctly, the Pantera Retro is an electric scooter; zero emission, zero fuel consumption. Very green, if that’s a goal, and why not? I would be concerned with the power and the wheel size. Lacking substance in either is inviting disaster. Sluggish acceleration or very low top speed can put the rider in harm’s way. And the smaller diameter the wheel, the easier to upset the moving vehicle. The larger wheels and tires on motorcycles give them a rolling mass with a gyroscopic effect that makes them difficult to upset at normal speeds, more difficult at higher speeds. That effect is much less with the smaller diameter wheels and tires, making them comparitively vulnerable to upset should you encounter gravel, debris, or anything else that would disrupt the contact patch maintined by the tire.

    As a motorcyclist, I’m ambivalent about legal scooters. They do have their place in the transportation hierarchy. They offer definite advantages over fossil-fueled vehicles. But their limited size and power makes them even more vulnerable than motorcycles…and that’s very dangerous. Perhaps the areas in which they are legal could be restricted, or they could be bumped up in power and wheel size, making them somewhat safer.

    July 8, 2006 at 9:40 pm

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  19. kevin

    Where do you find parts for your 2004 retro pantera? Thanks, Kevin

    September 19, 2006 at 3:17 pm

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  24. ken

    Question i have a pantarra elec scooter can someone tell me what the on/ off switch does? it has threepositions two on positions and center off . were do you put it to charge the batteries

    September 18, 2007 at 10:00 am

  25. I just bought two electric scooters off crafts list. They both need work so I’m going to fix them up and publish a blog about them. I want to make a detailed table of performance statistics. I’ve also been scouring the web for resources as they are both out of production. One is a panterra freedom 750 watt electric hub motor that runs on 4 12v 12amp hour batteries. The other one is an Electra voy phantom 4 36v 3 battery 12 v each 12 amp hours, 500 watt motor. I’m thinking I will publish on Would love to get input.

    May 31, 2008 at 10:11 am

  26. Yeah, I want to buy it, It’s better if i have a test drive. Thanks a lot.

    May 21, 2009 at 4:03 am

  27. Kevin

    DUde by it there is no laws that app. to it its the same as driveing a wheel chair do it my friend has one and i want it bad

    June 25, 2009 at 9:25 pm

  28. Yeah I agree. Good points really!

    January 13, 2010 at 4:05 pm

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